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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Nathan Natas

  Simon mentioned "Disney VERSIONS of reality."

  I thought it might be HELPFUL to remind ourselves of the REALITY of admission to, and length of visitation in DISNEYLAND:

  Disneyland Tickets

  These tickets are good for entrance to one park per day - either Disneyland Park or Disney California Adventure. The price of a 1 Day ticket varies depending on when you'll be visiting: Regular period, Value period or Peak period.
  

  Ages 3-9

  1 Day 1-Park Ticket - Value $89

  1 Day 1-Park Ticket - Regular $99

  Ages 10+

  1 Day 1-Park Ticket - Value $95

  1 Day 1-Park Ticket - Regular $105
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  Scientology Superbowl Ad

  by azor in

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  simply disgusted with that double standard by our system at times.

  cutting ads that question trumps bigoted wall, yet allowing a cult ad in.

  wtf..

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  Azor, does MEXICO have laws governing immigration into MEXICO?

  Yes it does. Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says, “A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.”

  WHY is it OK for MEXICO to have immigration laws but BIGOTED for the US to insist on the same sovereignty?

  Call me names if it helps your argument.
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Nathan Natas

  Azor, my ancestors came to this country in full compliance with the immigration laws that applied at the time of their arrival, and they came because they were in full agreement with the principles of the US Constitution and the other laws of the United States of America.

  You are no doubt familiar with the saying "mi casa es su casa." is that EVER meant literally? If I break into your home, does that make me a member of your family?

  You may be unaware of the purpose of the organization called "la Raza" and the goals of the Reconquista Movement, but I am.

  It speaks volumes that you find an informed opponent "truly disgusting." Surely you would prefer that EVERYONE was on a mental siesta, aided by some of your illegal Mexican herbal imports.
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  Scientology Superbowl Ad

  by azor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  simply disgusted with that double standard by our system at times.

  cutting ads that question trumps bigoted wall, yet allowing a cult ad in.

  wtf..

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  Nathan Natas

  I'm a bigot if I don't support criminals? OK, put me down as bigot.
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  I am giving everyone on the board...

  by The Rebel in

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  a new commadment to the posting guidelines.

  we must love one another.. if i read the posting guidelines and saw the lurking presence of that new commadment " we must love one another" i would feel very uneasy about registering.

  it sounds more like a threat than an expression of love.

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  Nathan Natas

  The Rebel said, " I think if the posting guidelines COMMANDMED [sic] us to love each other it would be a little optimistic, arrogant and presumptuous."

  ...but not if you do it?

  OK, just wanted to get clear on that.
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Nathan Natas

  Most of us were NOT criminals, and most of us were NOT dedicated to the overthrow of the US government and the destruction of America.
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  My families shunning has gone to a whole new level

  by pale.emperor in

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  8 months df'd.

  loving a life of freedom.

  however, my family are all shunning me.

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  Nathan Natas

  There comes a point when a person has to decide if they value themselves enough to act in their own self-defense. I understand your pain and how much you regret having to take a stand, but you are doing the right thing.

  There are people here who will urge you to continue being a doormat. They are fools.
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  What if I'm attracted to the association of xJW's but not interested in JW topics?

  by IveBeenBitten in

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  what if i'm attracted to the association of xjw's but not interested in jw topics?.

  i'm interested in talking with people that are xjw's but i'm not interested in talking about jw stuff.

  maybe sometimes, but is there a place to go where "jehovah's witnesses" don't have a topic?.

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  Nathan Natas

  You can send PMs to any member of the board with whom you feel an affinity, and if any given topic doesn't interest you, you are not obligated to read them.

  Good luck! Have fun!
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  What finally helped you to peek behind the curtain

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i'm interested in finding out what it was that finally enabled you to open your eyes to the real truth of watchtower.

  what started me thinking, was the societys very own book...' 'revelation..it's grand climax at hand'.

  i found that book farcicle.

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  Nathan Natas

  WingCommander challenged, "Q for Nathan Natas: Before you left your congregation, did you clue in that young sister with 2 young children? I sure hope so!"

  That marriage took place years after I left NYC. Is that OK with you?

  Please keep me fully informed of any other standards you might set for me.
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  New here..help greatly appreciated

  by Confusedandangry in

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  hi everyone i don't even know where to begin.

  i recently saw leah remini's series on scientology thanks to my husband (semi-active jw) and i felt like my eyes were being opened for the 1st time in my adult life.

  i felt shaken almost sick to my stomach with each episode i watched.

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  Nathan Natas

  Smiddy is correct, "Captives Of A Concept" is an excellent book.